Subject: RE: A rising or setting sun?
Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 23:01:24 -0800
How have the Dems played the post-9/11 fear card like the GOP has? Each side has long said that this country would be safer with their version of government as opposed to the other one, but since 9/11, the Dems haven't put together a Patriot Act or curbed civil rights or invaded the privacy of national and local protest groups.
And you're right about the Founding Fathers with regard to their hypocrisy about slave-owning. :)
However, it seems like most of America (and a lot of innocent people around the world) are finding themselves caught between the evangelical and neo-con fanatics and the Islamic fanatics. Too bad there isn't some desolate island where these fanatics can be sent to fight it out until they're all gone.
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Subject: Re: A rising or setting sun?
Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 18:21:28 -0500
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From: Michael Busick
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In the late 60s -- or early 70s -- a musical group called "Brotherhood Of Man" had a hit with a song called "United We Stand". The chorus started with (predictably) "United We Stand/Divided We Fall...".
As long as one side plays the fear card -- and is successful with it -- this country will never reach the potential that our Founding Fathers hoped we would reach.
We shouldn't have to give up all of our basic, civil, American rights in order to be sufficiently safe. When this country becomes a safe police state, the terrorists win.
"He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither." Benjamin Franklin said that -- and he was never president.
When we spend more time pointing out each other's differences than each other's similarities, the terrorists win.
When we start deciding which parts of the Constitution, Bill Of Rights and Declaration Of Independence work and which ones don't, the terrorists win.
It's common knowledge that the bad guys don't like our freedom. Why, then, are we continuing to let it be taken away from us to try to fight those bad guys?
Each of us is part red and part blue. The right candidate to properly lead this country in 2008 -- and beyond -- will remind us of that and that candidate should win.
Subject: A rising or setting sun?
Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 22:09:15 -0500
Now that we've all been able to take some Mucinex and clear the phlem out of our political systems, how 'bout we mosey back to more objective analysis and constructive dialogue? After all, if we're going to live together in this great land of ours, we've got to be able to appreciate the mix of perspectives and work together to solve the really serious immediate and long-term problems we face. Our party leaders and candidates do a good enough job of seeing the specks in their opponents' eyes despite the logs in their own, so they don't need our help with that. I think - the existence of all the campaign and party rhetoric on both sides notwithstanding - where they really can use some bottom-up assistance is in putting party aside to figure out where the common ground exists and how we can work together to find solutions we can live with (as opposed to those we'd like to dictate to the other side). Is this possible, or are we condemned to fight it out in a bloodlust battle to dominate and destroy? It seems that the context of Benjamin Franklin's quote about the colonies moving into revolution has changed drastically, but the bottom line is still the same: We must hang together or we will assuredly hang separately. Thoughts?