Saturday, August 30, 2008

Who is Sarah Palin?

Hey check this out.

Dear MoveOn member,

Yesterday was John McCain's 72nd birthday. If elected, he'd be the oldest president ever inaugurated. And after months of slamming Barack Obama for "inexperience," here's who John McCain has chosen to be one heartbeat away from the presidency: a right-wing religious conservative with no foreign policy experience, who until recently was mayor of a town of 9,000 people.

Huh?

Who is Sarah Palin? Here's some basic background:

  • She was elected Alaska's governor a little over a year and a half ago. Her previous office was mayor of Wasilla, a small town outside Anchorage. She has no foreign policy experience.1
  • Palin is strongly anti-choice, opposing abortion even in the case of rape or incest.2
  • She supported right-wing extremist Pat Buchanan for president in 2000. 3
  • Palin thinks creationism should be taught in public schools.4
  • She's doesn't think humans are the cause of climate change.5
  • She's solidly in line with John McCain's "Big Oil first" energy policy. She's pushed hard for more oil drilling and says renewables won't be ready for years. She also sued the Bush administration for listing polar bears as an endangered species—she was worried it would interfere with more oil drilling in Alaska.6
  • How closely did John McCain vet this choice? He met Sarah Palin once at a meeting. They spoke a second time, last Sunday, when he called her about being vice-president. Then he offered her the position.7

This is information the American people need to see. Please take a moment to forward this email to your friends and family.

Friday, August 29, 2008

McCain-Palin Ticket

I'll give McCain one thing; I didn't see this pick coming AT ALL! I only heard of her last night on C-SPAN as they ran down a list of speakers at the RNC. I think he's really going out on a limb.

First thing I mentioned to Michelle when I heard the pick: They want to make Biden look like he's attacking women when they get in a debate.
Second: Does this really woo the unhappy Hillary supporters or women in general?
Third: The ol' "heartbeat away from the presidency" question. If the Reps think Obama is inexperienced, does Palin have the creds to backup a 72-year-old presidential nominee? Major stumbling block here, I think.
Fourth: I guess the evangelicals and conservatives like Palin's stance on issues, but anti-abortion isn't the way to get the women vote.

Forces some tactical adjustments for Obama-Biden in the short term (I bet they didn't see her coming, either), but in the long run VP picks end up being neutral. However, Biden backs up Obama much, much better than Palin does McCain. She seems hollow, token and purely a move in political campaign terms, not at all about how qualified she is to lead the second-in-command position. Too bad for Mitt Romney, but Hillary didn't get the VP nod, either.

Monday, August 25, 2008

Obama-Biden Ticket

The VP gauntlet has been dropped from the Dem side, so what do you all think? I think it is a good and perhaps safe pick. McCain camp has already started to spin on the lack of foreign policy experience and going against the change agent message of Obama, but I think Biden is a good bulldog against Rep attacks. McCain camp is also courting seriously the disaffected Hillary voters, but those (some say up to 25% of her supporters who would now vote for McCain), I would argue, were not really core Dems, mostly independents and maybe some Reps who are Bush-haters.

Anyway, let's chime in, as the Dem convention is now rolling...

Monday, August 11, 2008

Fwd: Continuing on Edwards et al.

From BRM via googlegroups...

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: "Brian Menard" <brian_men...@hotmail.com>
Date: Aug 11 2008, 1:06 pm
Subject: Continuing on Edwards et al.
To: AMoMaI Group


Glad we agree, and that's with bipartisan culpability. (My beef with
Larry Craig is not the orientation of his activity, but the hypocrisy
factor. As for Gingrich, I respect the heck out of his great brain,
diagnostic ability, and strategizing, but he'll never be President
because he can't - or at least couldn't - keep his pants on. To his
credit though, he admitted things and resigned where others have not.)

As for Europe, I would argue that in fact, there IS a big difference
in moral expectations between the USA and Europe, not only with public
figures, but perhaps BECAUSE there is so much more toleration of such
things in many European cultures generally. Religion does figure in,
but not in the sense of right wing control of U.S. politics; I believe
it's more a matter of religion NOT playing so much an active part in
European culture.

As for damning politicians for sleeping around, I think John Edwards
said it best himself when he finally started to admit to a teeny-
weenie little part of what I suspect he will ultimately have to admit
to despite continuing to deny it (as he lied with a straight face just
a few months ago about the fact that any infidelity at all took
place). In his ABC interview, he said essentially that there is a
hubris that comes from a sense of invincibility and all-powerfulness
that seduces one into thinking that he can do anything that he wants
without culpability. THAT is very dangerous in public office,
especially the most powerful office in the world.

BRM

Saturday, August 9, 2008

RE: Politics: Edwards Admits Affair to ABC News

Well, he's definitely a huge heel here, but I think we can also all agree that neither party has the upper hand in matters of virtue, morals or family values. :)

MLB



From: brian_menard@hotmail.com
To: b.adamson@comcast.net; misterb_46@hotmail.com; yhkpenguin@yahoo.com
CC: yhkpenguin.amomai@blogger.com
Subject: Re: Politics: Edwards Admits Affair to ABC News
Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 10:22:54 -0400

And, I would add, also a shame that Edwards took such advantage of his wife's health circumstances for political gain while he was otherwise involved with extracurricular activity. Any agree?

BRM

Re: Politics: Edwards Admits Affair to ABC News

And, I would add, also a shame that Edwards took such advantage of his wife's health circumstances for political gain while he was otherwise involved with extracurricular activity. Any agree?

BRM
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 7:20 PM
Subject: Fw: Politics: Edwards Admits Affair to ABC News


Well, well, the other shoe drops...but no admission of fathering the child. Boy, he's learned a few things from Clinton, I suppose. What a shame that I have to admit that Fox and the Enquirer were right. Ugh!

Young

--- On Fri, 8/8/08, NYTimes.com <nytdirect@nytimes.com> wrote:

----------------------------------------

The Caucus
Edwards Admits Affair to ABC News
By KATHARINE Q. SEELYE
In an interview, former Senator John Edwards said he had an
extramarital affair but did not father a child out of
wedlock.
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/08/08/abc-news-edwards-admits-to-extramarital-affair/index.html?nl=pol&emc=pol


Friday, August 8, 2008

Fw: Politics: Edwards Admits Affair to ABC News

Well, well, the other shoe drops...but no admission of fathering the child. Boy, he's learned a few things from Clinton, I suppose. What a shame that I have to admit that Fox and the Enquirer were right. Ugh!

Young

--- On Fri, 8/8/08, NYTimes.com <nytdirect@nytimes.com> wrote:

----------------------------------------

The Caucus
Edwards Admits Affair to ABC News
By KATHARINE Q. SEELYE
In an interview, former Senator John Edwards said he had an
extramarital affair but did not father a child out of
wedlock.
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/08/08/abc-news-edwards-admits-to-extramarital-affair/index.html?nl=pol&emc=pol

Wednesday, July 30, 2008

Fwd: Response to Young's Carter comment

From BRM via googlegroups...

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: "Brian Menard" <brian_men...@hotmail.com>
Date: Jul 30 2008, 5:30 pm
Subject: Response to Young's Carter comment
To: AMoMaI Group


From my end of things, Carter had good reason to be defensive. The
"misery index" that he created to lambaste Ford in '76 had grown to a
double-digit albatross hanging around his own neck by '80. Foreign
affairs were a disaster. And things were a mess at home. Worst of
all, there was DISCO! Can't we blame that on Carter as well? BA, I
won't touch the ABBA thing; I know that wasn't your fault despite an
ethnic affiliation.

BRM

Tuesday, July 29, 2008

Re: Is Obama Another Jimmy Carter?

You mean his new "documentary".

BRM
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 11:07 AM
Subject: RE: Is Obama Another Jimmy Carter?



I'd not considered that T. Boone Pickens might join the Obama camp. Yeah, that would be a brilliant PR move. Actually, I'm hoping Oliver Stone's new movie "W" will have a greater influence. Talk about a master propagandist.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sg7vwicPx98

BA

Just curious: Does anyone else think that the T. Boone Pickens push
of the last couple weeks will be a brilliant and strategic free
advertisement for Obama when Pickens ultimately endorses Obama during the
general campaign? I agree with the need for developing renewable energy
resources beyond (not in place of) expanding current energy efforts, but I won't
be surprised when Pickens outs himself in the Obama camp.

RE: Is Obama Another Jimmy Carter?

Might want to check-out the Mayhill Fowler's piece on the Huffington post - not entirely positive- seemed fair and balanced to me.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mayhill-fowler/baracks-berlin-gamble_b_115312.html

BA

________________________________
From: misterb_46@hotmail.com
To: brian_menard@hotmail.com; yhkpenguin@yahoo.com; b.adamson@comcast.net; briada@hotmail.com
CC: yhkpenguin.amomai@blogger.com
Subject: RE: Is Obama Another Jimmy Carter?
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 08:11:18 -0700


OK, but the guys on Fox & Friends (according to a clip on the Daily Show last week) showed Obama in front of German monument and wasted no time comparing his location and speech to that of Hitler back in the day.

Like a lot of folks these days, I only get my national news from the Daily Show and the Colbert Report. :)

MB

________________________________

From: brian_menard@hotmail.com
To: yhkpenguin@yahoo.com; misterb_46@hotmail.com; b.adamson@comcast.net; briada@hotmail.com
CC: yhkpenguin.amomai@blogger.com
Subject: Re: Is Obama Another Jimmy Carter?
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 08:17:02 -0400

Actually, your dear friends at Fox News (real news portions, not opinion shows, and not Obermaneque "opinion pretending to be news" shows) did the best job of covering Obama on the trip (while also getting digs in at their ABC/CBS/NBC rivals for their giddy fawning coverage) with actual reporters reporting what happened, with whom he met, what was discussed, and what reactions come from it all. I agree that the European coverage, by and large, was more focused than the Americans' star struck coverage. That included telling about how his German crowd got pretty quiet when Obama said Europe needed to step up and do their part in Afghanistan (for which I give him great credit). Didn't catch much of that here, but maybe I missed it in my channel surfing between the "big three" majors, CNN, CNBC, MSNBC, and FOX.

RE: Is Obama Another Jimmy Carter?

Let's face it - Obama screwed up by not visiting the hospitalized soldiers in Germany. One can only wonder what his true motivations were? Downer, little scary, perhaps he didn't want to face the reality of sacrifices made for a war that he did not start? Who knows... Can't defend Obama on this one. I think he made a mistake that will haunt him.

BA



From: brian_menard@hotmail.com
To: yhkpenguin@yahoo.com; b.adamson@comcast.net; briada@hotmail.com; misterb_46@hotmail.com
CC: yhkpenguin.amomai@blogger.com
Subject: Re: Is Obama Another Jimmy Carter?
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 07:57:18 -0400


That could be what really happened, though my understanding tweaks a little differently: the Pentagon told him HE was most welcome to come but the media entourage had to stay out, at which point the campaign chose not to put him one-on-one with the soldiers in the hospital. Two versions of the same story? How could it be in our blessed media age?
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 10:09 PM
Subject: RE: Is Obama Another Jimmy Carter?


Actually, I'm tired of reading how the media is in favor of either of them over the other.

There's no convention in sight and we still have three months to go so it seems like the media is grasping for any story they can find. This Europe trip. That biopsy. This magazine cover. That trip to Pennsylvania.

As I understand Obama's aborted trip to Germany, the Pentagon asked him not to do it. Wherever he goes, he's going to have cameras whether he wants them or not (Wailing Wall for example) so I don't see how he really has to ask for them.

Enough already -- until the conventions.

RE: Is Obama Another Jimmy Carter?

OK, but the guys on Fox & Friends (according to a clip on the Daily Show last week) showed Obama in front of German monument and wasted no time comparing his location and speech to that of Hitler back in the day.

Like a lot of folks these days, I only get my national news from the Daily Show and the Colbert Report. :)

MB



From: brian_menard@hotmail.com
To: yhkpenguin@yahoo.com; misterb_46@hotmail.com; b.adamson@comcast.net; briada@hotmail.com
CC: yhkpenguin.amomai@blogger.com
Subject: Re: Is Obama Another Jimmy Carter?
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 08:17:02 -0400

Actually, your dear friends at Fox News (real news portions, not opinion shows, and not Obermaneque "opinion pretending to be news" shows) did the best job of covering Obama on the trip (while also getting digs in at their ABC/CBS/NBC rivals for their giddy fawning coverage) with actual reporters reporting what happened, with whom he met, what was discussed, and what reactions come from it all. I agree that the European coverage, by and large, was more focused than the Americans' star struck coverage. That included telling about how his German crowd got pretty quiet when Obama said Europe needed to step up and do their part in Afghanistan (for which I give him great credit). Didn't catch much of that here, but maybe I missed it in my channel surfing between the "big three" majors, CNN, CNBC, MSNBC, and FOX.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 10:52 PM
Subject: RE: Is Obama Another Jimmy Carter?


Brian M.

"Though I'm buried with reading and writing for a class, I can't sit out any longer on all the "media are for McCain" comments. Are we really in such different worlds that you guys think the media are shilling for McCain when Obama just did his superstar world tour with the three major network anchors and their accompanying entourages in tow? In my world, all their attention gave him a nice poll bump, though he somehow seems to have managed to lose much of it again in just a couple days despite all the fawning media efforts to help him any way they can."

Sorry, but I've got to comment on the above topic.

Yes, we really are in different worlds... Because, left-wingers are focusing on the story around the story. The story as told by the corporate media was Obama as "Rock Star" - - McCain criticizes Obama for not going overseas and then criticizes him for going overseas - - Looks like grandpa is the flip-flopper.

The media story was about the media covering the story. What is enlightening though is how little the media actually covered Obama, what Obama did and what Obama said. Instead the media was the message. The story was all about how big the story was. So, we're all left with the knowledge that Obama went to Europe and took an entourage of media with him to cover his big trip? What did we actually learn about that trip? What was actually covered? Just the story about how big the story was? How bizarre. Look at how Obama was covered in Europe. In Europe Obama was the story; In America the medias coverage of Obama was the story. Remember, Neil Postmans landmark book on television, "The medium is the message."

Brian Adamson

RE: Is Obama Another Jimmy Carter?

Since Pickens had a lot to do with the financing of the Swiftboating of Kerry in 2004, I'd like to think he's trying to make up for that now. :)

If Pickens is serious about his energy ideas -- and it sounds like he is -- I believe he'll support whichever candidate is more in line with his goals.

MB



From: brian_menard@hotmail.com
To: briada@hotmail.com; yhkpenguin@yahoo.com; b.adamson@comcast.net; misterb_46@hotmail.com
CC: yhkpenguin.amomai@blogger.com
Subject: Re: Is Obama Another Jimmy Carter?
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 08:05:46 -0400



Just curious: Does anyone else think that the T. Boone Pickens push of the last couple weeks will be a brilliant and strategic free advertisement for Obama when Pickens ultimately endorses Obama during the general campaign? I agree with the need for developing renewable energy resources beyond (not in place of) expanding current energy efforts, but I won't be surprised when Pickens outs himself in the Obama camp.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 10:38 PM
Subject: RE: Is Obama Another Jimmy Carter?


Yeah, what should Obama's group work on first: bringing the worst of this current administration to "justice" (we all know at worst it will be vacations in white-collar prisons) or trying to fix an economy stalled in 20th-century thinking (forget pre-9/11 thinking nonsense) while the rest of the developed world catches us and passes us?

The America of the good old days would seize on a chance to show the world how we can lead on wind and solar power innovations, but this administration (and McCain because he doesn't seem to know any better) whines and stomps its feet when it can't just dig bigger holes in the ground and sea whenever it wants to -- like it used to.

I don't mind more research into safer nuclear power (does that mean this administration wants to finally stop picking on France), but it's beyond time to look for more places to drill for oil and dig for coal and oil shale. Wind, water, and solar power will be around a lot longer than anything else and (IMHO) it doesn't look as bad when we try to build things to take advantage of wind, water, and solar power.

MB

RE: Is Obama Another Jimmy Carter?

I'd not considered that T. Boone Pickens might join the Obama camp. Yeah, that would be a brilliant PR move. Actually, I'm hoping Oliver Stone's new movie "W" will have a greater influence. Talk about a master propagandist.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sg7vwicPx98

BA

Just curious: Does anyone else think that the T. Boone Pickens push
of the last couple weeks will be a brilliant and strategic free
advertisement for Obama when Pickens ultimately endorses Obama during the
general campaign? I agree with the need for developing renewable energy
resources beyond (not in place of) expanding current energy efforts, but I won't
be surprised when Pickens outs himself in the Obama camp.


BRM

Re: Is Obama Another Jimmy Carter?

One other element about the story being about the story, though, is that there is actually something important for voters to know in what the media are doing in this election. Voters need to understand that the "facts" reported on Oberman and O'Reilly and Hannity and Dobbs and Courick are the chosen frosting and not the core essence. That can't come from 17 seconds of coverage in a story or 90 seconds of rant. When major media refuse to print the op-ed of a presumptive presidential nominee or focus coverage during one candidate's trip abroad on his opponent's concentration on domestic issues then blatantly cast coverage of the other's first significant trip abroad as the pre-beginning of the Presumptive President's administration instead of like Dorothy emerging in deep awe from her black-and-white house into the full-color world of OZ, there is a story there that voters should know.

BRM

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 10:52 PM
Subject: RE: Is Obama Another Jimmy Carter?



Brian M.

"Though I'm buried with reading and writing for a class, I can't sit out any longer on all the "media are for McCain" comments. Are we really in such different worlds that you guys think the media are shilling for McCain when Obama just did his superstar world tour with the three major network anchors and their accompanying entourages in tow? In my world, all their attention gave him a nice poll bump, though he somehow seems to have managed to lose much of it again in just a couple days despite all the fawning media efforts to help him any way they can."

Sorry, but I've got to comment on the above topic.

Yes, we really are in different worlds... Because, left-wingers are focusing on the story around the story. The story as told by the corporate media was Obama as "Rock Star" - - McCain criticizes Obama for not going overseas and then criticizes him for going overseas - - Looks like grandpa is the flip-flopper.

The media story was about the media covering the story. What is enlightening though is how little the media actually covered Obama, what Obama did and what Obama said. Instead the media was the message. The story was all about how big the story was. So, we're all left with the knowledge that Obama went to Europe and took an entourage of media with him to cover his big trip? What did we actually learn about that trip? What was actually covered? Just the story about how big the story was? How bizarre. Look at how Obama was covered in Europe. In Europe Obama was the story; In America the medias coverage of Obama was the story. Remember, Neil Postmans landmark book on television, "The medium is the message."

Brian Adamson

Re: Is Obama Another Jimmy Carter?

Actually, your dear friends at Fox News (real news portions, not opinion shows, and not Obermaneque "opinion pretending to be news" shows) did the best job of covering Obama on the trip (while also getting digs in at their ABC/CBS/NBC rivals for their giddy fawning coverage) with actual reporters reporting what happened, with whom he met, what was discussed, and what reactions come from it all. I agree that the European coverage, by and large, was more focused than the Americans' star struck coverage. That included telling about how his German crowd got pretty quiet when Obama said Europe needed to step up and do their part in Afghanistan (for which I give him great credit). Didn't catch much of that here, but maybe I missed it in my channel surfing between the "big three" majors, CNN, CNBC, MSNBC, and FOX.

BRM
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 10:52 PM
Subject: RE: Is Obama Another Jimmy Carter?



Brian M.

"Though I'm buried with reading and writing for a class, I can't sit out any longer on all the "media are for McCain" comments. Are we really in such different worlds that you guys think the media are shilling for McCain when Obama just did his superstar world tour with the three major network anchors and their accompanying entourages in tow? In my world, all their attention gave him a nice poll bump, though he somehow seems to have managed to lose much of it again in just a couple days despite all the fawning media efforts to help him any way they can."

Sorry, but I've got to comment on the above topic.

Yes, we really are in different worlds... Because, left-wingers are focusing on the story around the story. The story as told by the corporate media was Obama as "Rock Star" - - McCain criticizes Obama for not going overseas and then criticizes him for going overseas - - Looks like grandpa is the flip-flopper.

The media story was about the media covering the story. What is enlightening though is how little the media actually covered Obama, what Obama did and what Obama said. Instead the media was the message. The story was all about how big the story was. So, we're all left with the knowledge that Obama went to Europe and took an entourage of media with him to cover his big trip? What did we actually learn about that trip? What was actually covered? Just the story about how big the story was? How bizarre. Look at how Obama was covered in Europe. In Europe Obama was the story; In America the medias coverage of Obama was the story. Remember, Neil Postmans landmark book on television, "The medium is the message."

Brian Adamson

Re: Is Obama Another Jimmy Carter?

Just curious: Does anyone else think that the T. Boone Pickens push of the last couple weeks will be a brilliant and strategic free advertisement for Obama when Pickens ultimately endorses Obama during the general campaign? I agree with the need for developing renewable energy resources beyond (not in place of) expanding current energy efforts, but I won't be surprised when Pickens outs himself in the Obama camp.

BRM

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 10:38 PM
Subject: RE: Is Obama Another Jimmy Carter?



Yeah, what should Obama's group work on first: bringing the worst of this current administration to "justice" (we all know at worst it will be vacations in white-collar prisons) or trying to fix an economy stalled in 20th-century thinking (forget pre-9/11 thinking nonsense) while the rest of the developed world catches us and passes us?

The America of the good old days would seize on a chance to show the world how we can lead on wind and solar power innovations, but this administration (and McCain because he doesn't seem to know any better) whines and stomps its feet when it can't just dig bigger holes in the ground and sea whenever it wants to -- like it used to.

I don't mind more research into safer nuclear power (does that mean this administration wants to finally stop picking on France), but it's beyond time to look for more places to drill for oil and dig for coal and oil shale. Wind, water, and solar power will be around a lot longer than anything else and (IMHO) it doesn't look as bad when we try to build things to take advantage of wind, water, and solar power.

MB

Re: Is Obama Another Jimmy Carter?

That could be what really happened, though my understanding tweaks a little differently: the Pentagon told him HE was most welcome to come but the media entourage had to stay out, at which point the campaign chose not to put him one-on-one with the soldiers in the hospital. Two versions of the same story? How could it be in our blessed media age?

BRM
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 10:09 PM
Subject: RE: Is Obama Another Jimmy Carter?



Actually, I'm tired of reading how the media is in favor of either of them over the other.

There's no convention in sight and we still have three months to go so it seems like the media is grasping for any story they can find. This Europe trip. That biopsy. This magazine cover. That trip to Pennsylvania.

As I understand Obama's aborted trip to Germany, the Pentagon asked him not to do it. Wherever he goes, he's going to have cameras whether he wants them or not (Wailing Wall for example) so I don't see how he really has to ask for them.

Enough already -- until the conventions.



From: brian_menard@hotmail.com
To: yhkpenguin@yahoo.com; misterb_46@hotmail.com; b.adamson@comcast.net; briada@hotmail.com
CC: yhkpenguin.amomai@blogger.com
Subject: Re: Is Obama Another Jimmy Carter?
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 22:01:55 -0400



Though I'm buried with reading and writing for a class, I can't sit out any longer on all the "media are for McCain" comments. Are we really in such different worlds that you guys think the media are shilling for McCain when Obama just did his superstar world tour with the three major network anchors and their accompanying entourages in tow? In my world, all their attention gave him a nice poll bump, though he somehow seems to have managed to lose much of it again in just a couple days despite all the fawning media efforts to help him any way they can. The decision to cancel the hospital trip in Germany because he couldn't bring the cameras with him to exploit the wounded soldiers in a "Look how ready I am to be Commander in Chief" ad was a mistake that hurts him a little now, but I expect it will hurt him more as we get closer to election day. Meanwhile, McCain, despite not running a good campaign at all and despite the media alternating between ignoring him (such as when he went on his own international trip a few weeks ago) and hitting him, somehow remains competitive in the race.

Monday, July 28, 2008

RE: Is Obama Another Jimmy Carter?

http://www.alternet.org/election08/92942/frank_rich%3A_how_obama%27s_trip_abroad_turned_him_into_the_acting_president/?page=1

MB



From: b.adamson@comcast.net
To: misterb_46@hotmail.com; briada@hotmail.com; yhkpenguin@yahoo.com; brian_menard@hotmail.com
CC: yhkpenguin.amomai@blogger.com
Subject: RE: Is Obama Another Jimmy Carter?
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 03:10:58 +0000

One of the big three stories on Obama's trip to Europe was how poorly Americans would perceive his popularity in Europe.  Again, the story was about the story.  "That's not change we can believe in my friends."

BA
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From: misterb_46@hotmail.com
To: briada@hotmail.com; yhkpenguin@yahoo.com; brian_menard@hotmail.com; b.adamson@comcast.net
CC: yhkpenguin.amomai@blogger.com
Subject: RE: Is Obama Another Jimmy Carter?
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 02:38:18 +0000

Yeah, what should Obama's group work on first: bringing the worst of this current administration to "justice" (we all know at worst it will be vacations in white-collar prisons) or trying to fix an economy stalled in 20th-century thinking (forget pre-9/11 thinking nonsense) while the rest of the developed world catches us and passes us?

The America of the good old days would seize on a chance to show the world how we can lead on wind and solar power innovations, but this administration (and McCain because he doesn't seem to know any better) whines and stomps its feet when it can't just dig bigger holes in the ground and sea whenever it wants to -- like it used to.

I don't mind more research into safer nuclear power (does that mean this administration wants to finally stop picking on France), but it's beyond time to look for more places to drill for oil and dig for coal and oil shale. Wind, water, and solar power will be around a lot longer than anything else and (IMHO) it doesn't look as bad when we try to build things to take advantage of wind, water, and solar power.

MB



> From: briada@hotmail.com
> To: misterb_46@hotmail.com; yhkpenguin@yahoo.com; brian_menard@hotmail.com; b.adamson@comcast.net
> CC: yhkpenguin.amomai@blogger.com
> Subject: RE: Is Obama Another Jimmy Carter?
> Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 02:16:27 +0000
>
>
> Michael, Wow! "One reason Obama might be the next Carter is because of the mess left behind by the previous president. There's no way it will get fixed in one term. There should be progress in the right direction if Obama wants another term, but Carter faced the same economic issues (inflation, high gas prices, recession) that Bush would be facing if he was running again." I believe that you really pointed-out our worst fears and perhaps our biggest dilemma. We need a liberal democrat with almost dictatorial powers. We need an FDR for our age. We don't need to compromise on the big issues and we don't need another preacher - - like Jimmy Carter, who asked Americans to sacrifice, turn down the heat and drive slower. Instead, we need a president that will investigate and pursue criminal charges against those neo-cons and others that have broken the law. We need a president that will demand new CAFE standards and implement a new energy policy that goes beyond drilling more wells.
>
> The next Democrat has a mess to clean and worse, most Americans probably have no concept of how big, or bad that mess has become.
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> George "Hoover" Bush and Family have taking the largest creditor nation on earth and transformed it into the largest debtor nation the world has ever seen. Our stock market is down, our dollar is weak, our trade surplus is non-existent. In fact, we have become what we used to make fun of. The classic definition of a third world nation is one that exports raw material and imports finished "value-added" products. Free trade and neo-con economic policies have made the United States weaker and more vulnerable today than at perhaps any other time in recent memory.
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Obama in Europe

One of the big three stories on Obama's trip to Europe was how poorly Americans would perceive his popularity in Europe. Again, the story was about the story. "That's not change we can believe in my friends."

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